I try to limit the number of videos posted on this blog but I believe this subject is so important and pressing that it warrants inclusion here and now.
I would be interested to hear from people who not only agree but disagree with this video.
09 October 2008
If You Are American...
...then I urge you, implore you to watch this film - and even if you are not.
I try to limit the number of videos posted on this blog but I believe this subject is so important and pressing that it warrants inclusion here and now.
I would be interested to hear from people who not only agree but disagree with this video.
I try to limit the number of videos posted on this blog but I believe this subject is so important and pressing that it warrants inclusion here and now.
I would be interested to hear from people who not only agree but disagree with this video.
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Greetings Zee,
Thanks for having the courage to post this video for your readers to see and decide for themselves if the threat is real.
kim
Here is my take on this. She makes some very good points. They are things that have seriously concerned me over the last several years. The use of fear mongering to force the war in Iraq. The concept that the executive branch has these extraordinary powers because of this supposed "war". The internment of prisoners with no legal representation or right of habeous corpus. The illegal wire tapping of American citizens calls. And finally the abuse of and arrest of protesters in Minneapolis/St. Paul. These are serious, serious issues.
I do believe that the deployment of troops inside the US is an extremely grave issue. I think every right thinking person in the United States of America should contact every representative they have and protest such a move. It is an extremely provocative move by the executive branch and should be protested.
However, I disagree that we are currently in the middle of a coup. Yes, the way the bailout package was passed was offensive. Again, the fear mongering that played on people to try and get it passed. I'd have to see more proof that people were threatened with martial law before I believe that. But, as I said, I do not believe that a coup has been accomplished nor do I believe that it is necessarily imminent. Attempting to arrest the President or any of his people, though, could precipitate just such an action as Naomi is predicting.
I do think that we must remain vigilant. We must watch every move that is made by the Executive Branch and be prepared to protest any actions that further erode our civil rights. And, if the worst did come and there was an overt coup, then we need to be prepared to take to the streets in protest.
But again, I do not think that time is now. Certainly we have much to protest, and I expect people to be vocal in those protests. Call your legislators and let them know what you think of the actions in Minneapolis and St. Paul. Let them know what you think about the illegal wire tapping. Let them know how you feel about Quantanimo and Iraq. Especially let them know how you feel about the deployment of troops within the borders of the US.
Get involved, stay abreast of news, know what is going on, stay ever vigilant, so that when and if the time comes, we are able to take action. But make sure what you are taking action against before you move and do not move precipitously.
And those are my rather long-winded thoughts on this topic.
There are some inconsistencies in her message.
Be wary of those who would seize your possessions without due process...
and later encourages us to rise up and seize the computers and imprison those same people. Which sounds very much like the police state she is attempting to avoid.
Much like the heat Sarah Palin is taking for not being the right kind of feminist... what if we rise up against the wrong politicians? What if we are the wrong type of activists? And who exactly do we target?
This is fear mongering, pure and simple, the right and the left are both guilty of it.
Develop a theory, find things that appear to support it, and ignore anything that doesn't.
Propaganda.
I wasn't able to watch the entire video, but I watched half. I wasn't clear on who we should be worried about. The president? But he'll be out of office in a few months. So does that mean we should be worrying about whichever of the nominees win as well? Is this all made clear in the second half of the video? I'm not saying I don't get a lot of what I heard her saying, or even that I don't believe it. I'm just not clear on who her perceived enemy is.
I agree with a lot of what she says. I've been preparing for revolution or some other giant shift in America my whole life. I'm ready to run for the hills with my bag of seeds and water purification tablets...
Greetings,
Dan,
My take is not that she endorses you or I personally taking the computers but rather convincing a D.A. to move legally on an indictment and getting a warrant to look at computers and e-mail.
Like the good old days. When the rule of law was at least worth the paper is was written on.
Peace y'all
I believe her because I have experienced oppression during the last 2 years.
My first blog was a political blog. And I did some very thorough in depth reports on Bush/Cheney/ and yes the Clinton's.
When I started establishing a connection between the Clinton's and the Bush family via Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove I began receiving very odd phone calls.
The area code came from the capitol of the state which I live in. And that is where the F.B.I.'s main headquarters are in this state.
At first everyone doubted me. Because I am home alone quite a bit. My husband travels in his line of work.
He also has to maintain a F.B.I. clearance to keep his job. It was made clear to me to either shut up or his and my clearance could be jeopardized.
In his line of work we both have to hold clearances to enter Military bases, Nuclear plants, and government facilities.
Finally I had my husband here a few times and he witnessed the phone calls. As soon as I would make a post about the aforementioned things I would receive a phone call within 10 to 15 minutes.
There was also always a clicking sound on my phone during this time. I know my phone was tapped.
I am disabled and not able to work. My husband's job is our only means of survival. So I was literally forced to shut down my blog or else.
So I shut her down. After I deleted the blog the phone calls stopped and so did the clicking noises on my phone.
If you would like to do some poking around then simply go to YouTube and type in Bill Clinton and Bohemian Grove. Also search for David Gergen, and John Kerry.
Also dig into The Dresser company and it's links to the Haliburton. Unless it has been hidden or something has changed during this past year you will find that The Bush family owns The Dresser company which in turn holds a ruling interest in Halliburton.
Also you will find that the Bush family held interest, laundered money, and made money from Hitler's Germany until the U.S. government forced them to stop this activity.
They were involved until 1951. That means that when Bush senior was serving in our military his family was profiting off of Hitler's regime.
I could go on and on. But this should give you a good start to do some research.
We must at all cost retain our right to bear arms. We may indeed need them someday to save our very own country. Especially if we don't get the Republican party out of control.
And we must be leery of many Democrats as well. There has not been one sitting president since Grover Cleveland that had not attended Bohemian Grove in CA. And Hillary Clinton is the very first woman ever invited and she did participate.
That is why i am so shocked that Obama actually got the nomination. But one of his advisers is also a skull and bones member.
The connection has to exist somewhere to become president and Obama was smart enough to know that. I am just glad that he himself is not a member.
All Americans need to pay close attention to what is exactly happening in this country.
But, I do not believe it is too late yet. I do believe that hopefully with the upcoming election we can do even more house cleaning.
Thanks for sharing this. And please I do not discuss politics on my current blog.
Good luck and keep up the good fight.
This won't end after the elections in November. Bottom line is, we have given too much power to the presidents office. And what does every human who gets a little unchecked power do?....they grab more power.
Steps need to be taken now for the people to take back the power we had and to return our government to the check and balance that our founders set in place through the constitution.
You might want to see the video of Congressman Brad Sherman I have on my site. I have the video of alex jones with Naomi too.
Sorry,
This woman is absolutely crazy and in reality she is just looking to sell books. The election will take place as planned and no martial law will be put into effect.
This same conspiracy theory has been going around for 8 years and it's pathetic that the people pushing it all have something to sell.
While I agree that a coup has taken place, I disagree with other things. Martial law? Perhaps, but I doubt it.
I am relieved to hear that I am not the only one who has felt that democracy has disappeared from this country. For me, it happened in 2000, when the Republican party stole the election, and used the highest court in the land to do so. I woke up the next day, turned to the news channels and newspapers, and waited, telling my son that surely there would be a revolution.
It was not to be. Had there been one, I would have been there. I do not wish for my children to be stuck with a country that has lost it's will to be free because it requires sacrifice.
I am currently fighting back in my own way, and it isn't much, but it is all I can do right now.
Micheal Moore had this same message in between his award winning documentary, "Fahrenheit 911" e.g, the fear propaganda of the Bush Administration against the American people in regards to Iraq & terrorism.
Even now, presidential hopeful, Sen. John McCain still tries to use it in his campaigns.
The first step to a solution is, to make sure these people do not translate into the next administration. So Americans must not vote wrong. All elective offices must be scrutinised against this threat.
This is very persuasive when you consider the behaviour of our politicians during this campaign cycle.
temple
Naomi is absolutely correct when she points out the similarities between what is going on now and what happens when dictatorships are going into power. We need to take the threat seriously.
I didn't know who she is, so I decided to research her first claim, that of Monica Bicking being charged is being charged as a terrorist. My conclusion? She both misleads and flat out lies.
1. Misleading
She is making the assertion that this is our Federal Government coming against us. By clicking the link below, one can read that she was actually charged under a Minnesota law and not a Federal law. Hence, this would be of concern to the people of Minnesota, and would not legitimately make the case for fear of the Federal Government.
Story Here
2. The Lie
She claims that the Government is going to "expand the definition of terrorism so that people who look like ordinary Americans are going to be charged as terrorists". She specifically sites Monica Bicking as an example of this.
First, the definition of terrorism is, and has been, The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
Monica Bicking is being charged for her statements that she intended to disrupt traffic to prevent people from attending the Republican Convention. In her house, according to the article linked above, they found "caltrops", devices used to puncture tires.
So, for a fact, Monica is alleged to have threatened force against property with the intention of intimidating or coercing people who wished to attended the Convention.
This would fall under the conventional definition of terrorist, not some "expanded" definition. The other members of Monica's group charged with her are alleged to have committed the following crimes.
1. One of the individuals built explosive devices, and told a confidential informant that they were for use at the Republican National Convention.
2. One attended a workshop where plans for kidnapping delegates were discussed.
All of this clearly falls under the definition of terrorism that has been in place for some time.
So, to Naomi I would say, nice try. She lost me with her lies and misleading on the first point so I didn't view the rest.
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